I got this picture, and all credit due to keep em going website. This is Dan's dad Glen who passed away a couple years ago. Glen is the dog who turned me on to Border Collies, and indeed if I did not see him work with Warren I probably would still not have one, so I do owe both Glen and Warren a big debt of gratitude. He was a wonderful dog, and I remember, one time I mentioned to Warren how much I liked him, and he replied "I'd take another" which from Warren is high praise indeed. I see lots of Glen in Dan. Just what I wanted.